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WEEKLY COMMENTARY
March 19, 2002
THE COMING SILVER EXPLOSION
AN IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW WITH SILVER
ANALYST THEODORE BUTLER
It’s our opinion that silver analyst, Theodore Butler has more knowledge
about silver and the silver markets than anyone else on the planet.
That’s a big claim. Nevertheless, we have presented difficult questions
to him time and again to which he has responded with expertise. We have
confronted him with various arguments that dispute his theories about
silver and he has always demolished them. I personally believe that he’s
right and that's why my company continues to forcefully present his
dramatic case for silver. We recently conducted the following interview.
Q.
You and I have both written to the Commodity Futures Trading
Commission (CFTC) recently to complain about the large short sales by a
few bullion dealers. Can you explain your case?
A.
My case is simple - enormous, concentrated and uneconomic paper
short sales on the COMEX have kept the price of silver artificially
depressed for years. What makes matters worse, the silver paper short
sales have become so extreme and obvious, it's clear to me that this
selling is for one purpose only - to keep the price of silver cheap. It's
manipulation in its purest form.
Q.
Short sales are a means to sell silver on paper. It's silver you
don't have. You sell a futures contract and later you buy it back, or
cover. Is that correct?
A.
Yes. I'm not against short sales. They are part and parcel of every
futures market transaction. The futures markets could not exist without
short sales. The basic definition of a futures contract is that one party
is short and the other is long.
Q.
There’s also a delivery component isn’t there?
A.
Yes, a short sale is an agreement to deliver a certain quantity of
silver, or if you don’t deliver, to cover, or buy back the contract
before expiration. A long (or buyer) agrees to accept delivery of silver,
or sell out his contract before expiration. That’s the opposite of the
short.
Q.
It sounds like everything gets balanced by expiration.
A.
Everything is not balanced by expiration, because 90+% of all
futures contracts are "rolled-over", or extended when the
expiration becomes due. So, there really is no true expiration. But much
more importantly, of all the regulated commodities, only in COMEX silver
is the total short position larger than what could possibly be satisfied
by real delivery.
Q.
Explain?
A.
I mean that the short position in COMEX silver, in futures and call
option contracts, is larger than all known silver bullion inventories in
the world. The short position is also greater than all the silver that
could be mined in the world in a year. This situation has never existed in
any other regulated commodity. This situation has existed continuously in
COMEX silver for the entire time I allege that silver has been
manipulated, for the past 15+ years. In fact, this is the reason (plus
leasing) that silver has been manipulated.
Q.
Can you put it into numbers?
A.
Well, as of today, March 15, there were roughly 120,000 silver
futures and call options contracts open on the COMEX. That's equal to 600
million ounces of silver. World mine production is less than that, and
there are no more than 125 million ounces of documented silver bullion
inventories in the world.
Q.
Compare that to gold.
A.
Today, COMEX gold open interest is around 265,000 contracts in
futures and calls, or 26.5 million ounces of gold That’s less than
one-third of world mine production. That’s less than one per cent of
known bullion inventories of three billion ounces. If gold was the same as
silver there would be nine billion ounces short. What a joke. This sick
situation does not exist in any other commodity.
Q.
Why do you call it sick?
A.
Because it should be impossible to have a short position bigger
than what exists or could be produced. Think about it. Let me go one step
further. This is all the proof that anyone would ever need to know that
silver is manipulated. This large short position would be impossible in
any other item, commodity or otherwise. And how the COMEX and CFTC can sit
by and ignore this aberration is beyond me.
Q.
I can accept the comparison to world production, but isn't there
more than 125 million ounces of silver in the world?
A.
Of course there is more silver than that. But I use verified
inventory, because that allows a scientific, objective comparison to other
commodities. Apples to apples. Also, the COMEX contract calls for a very
specific form of silver bullion. While there is much more silver in the
world than 125 million ounces, how much is available and in either good
delivery form, or that could be converted to good delivery form? I mean, I
hear these stories about billions of ounces in India, for instance. But
what form is it in, jewelry? And its ownership is spread among hundreds of
millions of people. And even in 1980, when silver hit $50, there was no
big Indian silver dumping. It's just silly to think that Indian silver
backs the COMEX short sellers.
Q.
But isn't there a long for every short? Doesn't that balance out
things?
A.
The longs are different from the shorts. They have different
responsibilities. Just because there's a long for every short, doesn't
mean a market can't be manipulated. Let's face it - we have had many
instances of manipulation over the years, and in every case, there was
always a long for every short. That didn't necessarily preclude
manipulation. Try as you may to justify it, it's one of those things that
sounds logical until you think about it further. There is no logical
economic backing to the excessive COMEX silver short position. And
frankly, it's even worse than I've described so far.
Q.
In what way?
A.
Not only is the short position in COMEX silver bigger than any
short position has ever been, or could ever be, it doesn't even appear to
be the real producers who are doing the selling. For example, just today,
Pan American Silver, reported their earnings; or, I should say, their lack
of earnings. They reported a loss. Same as Coeur d'Alene, Hecla and every
other primary silver miner I'm familiar with. The reason given for the
losses, just like the reason for the bankruptcy of Sunshine Mining is the
low price of silver. None of these companies can make a profit because the
price of silver is too low. Not surprisingly, none of these companies are
selling silver short on the COMEX, although they, as producers, would be
considered to be the logical sellers. That's because the COMEX and all
futures markets exist for the purpose of allowing real producers and
consumers to hedge. That is the economic purpose and justification as to
why we even have futures markets. To allow hedging.
Q.
You say the price of silver is too low for producers to profit and
the producers aren't selling or hedging on the COMEX. So if the real
producers, the natural hedgers aren't selling short on the COMEX, who is?
A.
The speculators. You have to be one or the other. You are either a
hedger or a speculator. If the hedgers aren't selling, then for sure, the
speculators are. And that makes the short selling on the COMEX that much
worse.
Q.
Why is that worse?
A.
Because then there is no economic justification for the short
position on the COMEX at all. Look, I can show that the COMEX silver short
position is the biggest short position in history. Now, I can show it is
being done by speculators, and not real producers. It is illegal beyond
question.
Q.
Illegal?
A.
Absolutely. The main purpose of commodity law is to prevent
manipulation. The economic justification for futures trading is to allow
hedging. The speculators on the COMEX have driven the price of silver so
low, that the producers not only can't hedge, they can't even show a
profit, or stay in business. The main premise of commodity law is that the
real producers and consumers of a commodity should set the price of the
commodity, not speculators. In Comex silver, the short selling speculators
run the show. And that's flat-out illegal. How the miners sit by silently
and allow this to happen is beyond me. They act as if everything's just
fine.
Q.
What about the CFTC and COMEX? Don't they see this problem?
A.
Jim, I read your letters to the CFTC and their response, just as
you have read mine to them and the COMEX. In addition to taking three
months to answer you, did you feel they even addressed the issue fairly?
Q.
Well, no.
A.
I don't know why the COMEX and CFTC won't address this issue and
fix the problem. It is plain as day. And it's disgraceful.
Q.
Do you know who the big speculators are?
A.
Mostly the dealers, but sometimes the technical hedge funds. Right
now, it's the dealers, although the dealers are trying to lure the hedge
funds onto the short side.. For the new Commitment of Traders report
issued today, the concentrated net short position of the 4 or less traders
has increased to over 181 million ounces, a recent record and thoroughly
obscene naked short position. If there are 4 traders, and not less, that
means they hold an average of over 45 million ounces net short, each. Just
to put that number, 181 million ounces, into perspective, that's equal to
the entire silver mining output of the most silver-prolific continent in
the world - North America. 4 or less speculative traders are short what
every silver mine in Mexico, the US, and Canada produce in a year. It's
totally crazy. With that kind of short selling, it's a wonder the price
isn't two dollars.
Q.
But who are these big speculators?
A.
We can only guess, because the CFTC keeps that secret, although I
am trying to get that changed. The likely candidates are Goldman Sachs,
AIG, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of Nova Scotia, HSBC - the usual group of
suspects. The ones I have publicly accused of being involved in this
unsavory enterprise. Certainly none of them is coming forward to admit to
being one of these 4 or less traders. While the CFTC will undoubtedly hide
behind the law preserving these traders identity, it is a selective
enforcement of the law. The CFTC ignores the laws on manipulation and
speculative position limits. We are in a new day and age of transparency
in the markets, and there is no reason that any trader holding a net short
or long position in any market of 5% or more, should not be publicly
identified. Just like the SEC makes anyone with a 5% holding of any stock
publicly disclose the position.
Q.
So futures trading in silver has changed from producers and users
hedging to big speculators trading?
A.
Absolutely. Contrary to every concept of futures trading, the
speculators have pushed the real producers and consumers aside, as far as
price-influence goes. The lunatics are running the asylum.
Q.
They control the market?
A.
Without a doubt. These dealer/speculators and hedge
fund/speculators deal in amounts much larger than the real producers and
consumers, who are basically absent from the COMEX. It's like having the
front line of the St. Louis Rams against the local high school team. It
isn't even close. How could it be? These well-financed dealers are
swinging around obscene amounts of paper silver. That's what sets the
price.
Q.
What's really going on with these short sellers? What do you think
they are up to? Is it any more than trying to profit?
A.
I can only guess here. Like most things, the silver manipulation
started out small. I won't say innocently, but small. I think the dealers
realized many years ago, that by buying, or selling a few more contracts,
they could influence the price. They could set off stops. They could force
liquidation. They could "goose" the market.
What at first may have been normal market-making (taking the other
side of any trade) became complete dominance and manipulation.
Q.
Can they continue to control the market?
A.
Like any process, there are always unintended consequences. In
silver it’s the requirement that they short more and more contracts and
they become a larger and larger percentage of the short side. That's why 4
or less of them are net short all the silver produced in North America.
Once the dealers went down this path, there was no turning back.
Q.
So they are going to maintain the upper hand?
A.
I don’t think so. Silver is a worldwide commodity. By putting its
price artificially low for so long, another unintended consequence is to
attract outside investors to the low price. Jim, your customers aren't the
only ones awakening to the merits of buying silver at these prices. The
more the dealers and other speculators sell short, the more outside
investors (like Warren Buffett) see a historic opportunity. The increased
and concentrated dealer short selling keeps the price low, as long as
there’s silver to supply the deficit. The minute the dealers can't short
sell more, or there’s no more silver coming in from leasing, the
self-fulfilling process stops. We explode. And considering how noticeable
the concentrated COMEX short selling is becoming, it's hard to imagine it
having a very long life.
Q.
But, isn’t it also true that some hedge funds and
speculators are increasing their silver holding? With gold edging up and a
lot of people looking more favorably at silver, couldn’t this offset the
short sales of the big four you mention and push silver up?
A.
Sure, the big shorters could get overrun. Or, the dealers may
succeed in getting the funds to go short on lower prices and transfer the
short position “hot potato” to them. But, because of the structural
deficit, whomever is short when we get to the moment of truth, is going to
have a very big problem.
Q.
We could have a short squeeze couldn’t we?
A.
Not could, we WILL have a short squeeze. In fact, we will have the
biggest short squeeze in history, because we have the biggest short
position ever. The only thing we didn’t know is who will be squeezed or
when. Of course, to those who own silver outright, it doesn’t matter who
gets caught short. But for sure, someone will get caught short.
Q.
What would silver be priced at without these short sales?
A.
That's a tough one. If we never had these excessive short sales
over the past 15-20 years, and no one ever thought up the stupid practice
of metal leasing, that means the law of supply and demand would have been
functioning freely for the past two decades. In that case, I'd guess
somewhere between 15 and 30 dollars per ounce, depending upon how widely
recognized silver had become as an investment and depleted vital resource.
R.
Low prices do damage to the supply don’t they?
A.
Yes. Because of the artificial low price created by short selling
and leasing, we have consumed far more silver than we would have
otherwise. There has been no consumption constraints, resource
conservation or the new production that a free market price would have
provided, so all bets are off.
Q.
What price can rectify 20 years of manipulation?
A.
A shockingly high price- $50 or $100, or maybe much, much more in a
price spike. This is a worldwide commodity. I don't know how people around
the world will behave once the real story on silver comes out, and they
start to recognize how vital this material is, and how little there is
left. If they behave as emotionally as the professional investors and
speculators did in the dot-com bubble, my price assumptions will prove
low. We all know higher prices make people want to buy items more than low
prices. I can tell you this - once this silver price juggernaut gets
rolling, it will not be stopped until it runs its natural course. There
will be no government, not the US or anyone else, who will be able to put
out the silver fire, once it starts burning, because there are no
government inventories left. The silver conflagration will have to burn
itself out.
Q.
How about giving us a "way-out" silver prediction, you
haven't previously written about?
A.
I've been concerned that the US Mint has become very closed-mouthed
about the amount of silver they have remaining for their coin programs,
and when they will commence buying silver. That will be the first time
since before WW II, that the US is a buyer of silver. I think this could
be a market-moving event. I know a lot of people say it is discounted in
the market already, and what difference does it make, since the Mint needs
only 1% of total world silver consumption for its programs. I disagree.
First off, the proper comparison is to total supply, not demand, and the
amount, 10-12 million ounces is closer to 1.5 to 2%. That demand could
easily grow to a much bigger amount, as the Mint produces its silver
Eagles to meet demand. There are very few users in the world that consume
what the Mint will consume, maybe five or ten.
Q.
I thought the U.S. running out of silver was old news?
A.
No, I think it will still be a shock when people understand that
for the first time in over 200 years, the US is flat out of silver. The
real kicker could be that the Mint would cease production of new silver
Eagles, which would undoubtedly cause premiums on previously issued Eagles
to jump. It would also confirm to the whole world that the US is
officially out of silver. Either way, it makes silver look attractive, and
may explain why silver Eagle sales have
been strong.
Q.
You mentioned leasing. That's a process where an organization that
holds a large amount of silver leases it out to get an interest rate on
their silver. The ones who pay the interest sell the silver and use the
proceeds for their own purposes.
A.
This is the key to understanding silver. And it's the one thing
people have trouble understanding, because it's also one of those things
that sounds all right on the surface. But once you dig into what metal
leasing is all about, it's something else entirely. When you really
analyze leasing, when you pick it apart objectively, you will see it is
something that is not only stupid
but manipulative. What appears to be a simple and innocent way for a
central bank to gain interest on a fallow asset, and a great way for a
borrower to get access to cheap funds, is really a perversion. I keep
saying it's not a lease, it's a sale, because the collateral is destroyed
or sold, and can't be paid back. More importantly, the metal is dumped on
the market, depressing the price.
Q.
How much of this kind of silver can there be left?
A.
Boy, that's the billion dollar question. No one, certainly not me,
knows for sure, except those who have been leasing the silver, such as the
Philippine Central Bank. But, there has been over a billion ounces already
loaned out, and dumped on the market, by my estimates, so we do know
they're a billion ounces light from where they started.
Q.
The lease rate has gone up and down recently. What's it mean?
A.
Just to keep it simple, high lease rates mean a tightness in the
wholesale physical market, low rates means there is no availability
problem at the moment. The important thing to keep in mind about lease
rates, is that because these are short-term vehicles, mostly 30 days, the
rates can change abruptly from day to day. When we get a problem in the
lease market, as evidenced by high lease rates, it comes suddenly, without
warning. For an investor, waiting for lease rates as an buy signal, can
cause you to miss the market.
Q.
What about coin melts and other sources of silver?
A.
Since there appears to be premiums on all silver coins, I can't
imagine there is a coin melt presently under way. As far as investors
selling silver, I would think you would be in a better position than me to
answer that question. Do you see widespread investor silver liquidation?
Q.
No, but I'm trying to get to the bottom of where this silver is
coming from? Every month we need 10 million ounces above and beyond what
comes from mining and scrap recovery. That's a lot of physical silver. I
feel like I'm missing something.
A.
Jim, I know how you, and anyone who has looked at the silver
situation must feel. You sit there studying statistics and facts that show
a structural deficit and disappearing inventories, yet the price doesn't
reflect that. So, naturally, you get frustrated and begin to question if
the facts are correct, or is the low price telling you the real story and
the facts are wrong.
Q.
Well, where do you think it’s coming from?
A.
What you're asking, is what I asked myself a million times more
than 15 years ago. Where is the material coming from to satisfy the
deficit? I knew that the uneconomic and excessive short sales on the COMEX
were artificially depressing and manipulating the price of silver. And I
tried to do something about it. I wrote and called and complained to the
COMEX, the CFTC, Congress, state governments, corporations. I have enough
letters for ten books. But, I couldn't answer where the silver was coming
from to satisfy the deficit. I knew how the price was kept down, through
massive short selling, but I couldn't figure out how the mandatory
inventory liquidation was taking place, to make up for the short fall,
with such low prices. Driving the price down was one thing - keeping it
down with continued supplies was something else. I gave up. That's right -
I quit. I withdrew from the investment business in 1988 (I had been in it
since 1971, when I became a commodity broker for Merrill Lynch), because I
couldn't figure out where the silver was coming from. There were other
things that influenced my decision, of course, but you have my word that
not figuring out where the silver was coming from, at such low prices was
number one by far. I went into hibernation. So, I have respect and
understanding for you and anyone else who is frustrated by the continued
low price and deficit. You don't know what frustration is, until you grasp
what my frustration was.
The good news is that even though it took a terrible toll on my personal
life for ten years, I finally figured out where the silver was coming from
in 1995 - leasing. You don't have to look anyplace else for where the
silver is coming from to satisfy the deficit. The answer is leasing,
leasing, and leasing. And it will be over soon, because it is so stupid
and manipulative. And has created the buying opportunity of ten lifetimes.
Q.
Are you dead certain you are on the right track with this? When
things don't happen right away, people begin to doubt your argument and
become skeptical. How do we know you are right?
A.
You'll only know if I'm right or not with the benefit of hindsight.
I'm an analyst, but I'm also human, so I can be wrong. I'm wrong as far as
timing goes, because I thought silver would explode long ago.
Nevertheless, I have no doubt that my views on silver are correct. I have
been very careful in what I tell folks. I don’t exaggerate the facts. I
tell them that the best way to buy silver is on a fully paid for, physical
basis. That way, timing doesn't matter. There are sexier ways to buy
silver, including stocks, and employing leverage, but no surer way than
unencumbered real silver. And as I've told you before, Jim, I don't want
folks buying silver just because I say so. I give reasons, lots and lots
of reasons, all based upon publicly available data. I don’t think I’m
wrong, but everyone has to examine my argument and decide for themselves.
Q.
People think they can make more money in stocks and mutual funds in
a slightly improved economy than with silver. What do you think?
A.
Maybe they can, I don't know. I don't like badmouthing something
I'm not sure of. I'd rather be positive, and stick to what I know. . I've
studied silver as intensely as I believe is possible. An improved economy
makes silver a sure thing, in my opinion. The production and consumption
statistics make it clear there’s a tremendous silver shortage that will
be there no matter what the economy does. People tend to buy more silver
during inflation than deflation. But it doesn’t matter. The price must
rise in the most dramatic and explosive fashion to bring the market into
balance. To me, this outcome is a given.
Q.
Are you saying that silver is the best thing in the world to own?
A.
If there's something better, I'm all ears and eyes, but I'm not
aware of it. I am aware of silver. I'm aware of how vital it is to modern
life. I'm aware that it is captive to demographics; the more people, the
more silver needed. I'm aware everyone in the world knows what it is, and
may be a potential buyer. I'm aware we've used up all of history's
inventories. I'm aware that its future production is complicated by its
byproduct nature. I'm aware it has the largest short position ever seen in
anything, and how this will fuel a price explosion, by itself. I'm aware
it can't go bankrupt or worthless. I'm aware that it's current cheap price
has wrung the risk out of owning it. I'm aware that it's the best
candidate for a grand slam home run I've ever come across.
Thank you.
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